{"id":233,"date":"2004-06-02T19:41:39","date_gmt":"2004-06-02T19:41:39","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/maydanoz.arved.priv.at\/blog\/?p=233"},"modified":"2004-06-02T19:41:39","modified_gmt":"2004-06-02T19:41:39","slug":"did_wikipedia_f","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/arved.priv.at\/weblog\/2004\/06\/02\/did_wikipedia_f\/","title":{"rendered":"Did Wikipedia fail?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Horst is guilty of preventing me from doing university stuff. He wrote a <a href=\"http:\/\/homepage.univie.ac.at\/horst.prillinger\/blog\/archives\/2004\/06\/000623.html\">grumpy rant about the shortcomings of Wikipedia<\/a>.<\/p>\n<div class=\"cite\">Horst claims: <i>Wikipedia generates noise, not knowledge. Previous encyclopedias were well-researched and contained precise information that could be trusted to be correct. Wikipedia, on the other hand, contains a large amount of errors, omissions and superfluous trivia.<\/i><\/div>\n<p>I wrote several long comments trying to correct his picture of Wikipedia, among others<\/p>\n<div class=\"cite\">What happens if there is a bug in your Brockhaus? There is no easy way, you as a reader and maybe expert in one special field can correct it. You have to wait for the next edition before the readers get the fixed version.<br \/>\nWhat happens if you read a &#8220;random hit&#8221; from Google and notice a bug? Often it is not easy to find a contact address of the author, and even if there is a contact information, there is no gurantee this bug will ever be fixed.<br \/>\nThere is no easy way to tell the world that this information is wrong.<br \/>\nThe Wikipedia contributors believe that n+1 eyes find more bugs than n eyes.<br \/>\nI 100% agree with you, that an encylopedia is about trust. To help your decision about the trust of a Wikipedia article, you can also look at the whole history. If a fact has survived more than 100 edits, i would trust it more than one that has been added only recently. (One feature I am still missing in Wikipedia is a &#8220;cvs annotate&#8221; like functionality) <\/div>\n<p>Another comment from myself, about linking in Wikipedia.<\/p>\n<div class=\"cite\"> I noticed that the linking inside Wikipedia is a lot better than in the WWW (even better than in Weblogs), so it is very easy to browse from one article to the next one. I think the reason is the well defined naming scheme, which allows linking to articles that don&#8217;t exist at the time the article was written<\/div>\n<p> I really should do more research on this topic and write a longer article in the summer holidays.<\/p>\n<div class=\"cite\"> A very pessimistic follow up from Horst: <i><br \/>\nThe good thing about it &#8212; giving everybody who visits the opportunity to share their knowledge &#8212; turned into a bad thing because there are just too many people out there who are feeling compelled to share their lack of knowledge.<br \/>\n<\/i><\/div>\n<p> This could be generalized to apply to the Internet or Publishing. And I really hope that this is not the future.<br \/>\nOn the german Wikipedia Mailinglist there is currently a <a href=\"http:\/\/mail.wikipedia.org\/pipermail\/wikide-l\/2004-May\/008166.html\">similar discussion<\/a> on how to ensure the quality.<br \/>\nIf you are a wikipedia contributor, I would really like to know, if you can confirm Horst&#8217;s claim that the quality of your contributions was decreased by the follow-up edits?<br \/>\n<b>Update 2004-06-03:<\/b> Horsts article is making a lot of noise in the german Blogosphere. Some articles and comments are interesting to read:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.mathiasschindler.de\/text\/2004\/06\/why-wikipedia-sucks-less-than-trotw\/\">Mathias Schindler &#8211; Why wikipedia sucks less than TROTW*<\/a>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/blog.schockwellenreiter.de\/3791\">Der Schockwellenreiter &#8211; Scheffredakteur!? We don&#8217;t need no stinky Scheffredakteur!<\/a>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.industrial-technology-and-witchcraft.de\/comments.php?id=5847_0_1_0_C\">IT&#038;W &#8211; Das Web im Web<\/a>\n<\/ul>\n<p>( *Wow*, Although I don&#8217;t understand the popularity and the general philosophy behind Schockwellenreiter and IT&#038;W, this is the first time i link to them. The advantage of popular blogs are the many and high quality comments.)<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Horst is guilty of preventing me from doing university stuff. He wrote a grumpy rant about the shortcomings of Wikipedia. Horst claims: Wikipedia generates noise, not knowledge. Previous encyclopedias were well-researched and contained precise information that could be trusted to be correct. Wikipedia, on the other hand, contains a large amount of errors, omissions and &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/arved.priv.at\/weblog\/2004\/06\/02\/did_wikipedia_f\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Did Wikipedia fail?&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-233","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/arved.priv.at\/weblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/233","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/arved.priv.at\/weblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/arved.priv.at\/weblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/arved.priv.at\/weblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/arved.priv.at\/weblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=233"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/arved.priv.at\/weblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/233\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/arved.priv.at\/weblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=233"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/arved.priv.at\/weblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=233"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/arved.priv.at\/weblog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=233"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}